Older than Dirt

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Older than Dirt - A Collection of Memories
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This began with an email from Sue Behrens, a Madison mom and activist, called
Older than Dirt, and the Older than Dirt Quiz (see the original)

Here's what the Lizards remember:

Joanie Olin:

Well I'm older than dirt for sure, but at least there were seven or eight items I didn't know.

Man--those really WERE the good old days, and little reminders like this bring it all back. I can practically taste the blueberry popsickle I would get on a hot (and I mean really hot, in louisville) day, and the dirt we generally all played on in each others' yards because we were always relegated to the outdoors so there wasn't much grass left. It reminds me of the evenings spent trying to catch "lightning bugs," not fireflies, to put either on our fingers as rings--despite the dismemberment of the poor bug, and playing hide and seek until way after dark because all our parents were on their respective porches trying to cool off.

It brings back the smell of popcorn that you enjoyed every time you entered a JCPenny store (or was that Sears?). And I can't help but recall the time my mother accepted a case of chicken pot pies from a swanson salesman in exchange for our gastronomical reports.

Obviously I could go on and on. Thanks for disrupting, even for a brief moment, all the sour, sad news we are plagued with these days for a trip back to pleasantville.

Joanne McCarthy

Absolutely and I remember hula hoops and curlers with pink sponge in them. I even remember pincurls all over your head to sleep in. I remember the pile of damp clothes in the "icebox" before the sprinkle coke bottle was used on them. I remember papers with candy drops on them and my grandfathers grocery store that they lived "upstairs" from and how he would go down to open up on Christmas eve if a mother called who ran out of milk of something essential. Of course that was never diapers because they were all cloth and were washed twice a week in dreft and hung on the line to dry. We are really old. I remember carbon paper and mimeograph machines.

I'll stop now--this summer lets all catch some fireflys in a jar with a metal lid that we've punched holes in with a can opener.

 Pat Horn

 On that summer evening, let's play Hide and Go Seek and Kick the Can until our Moms yell for us to come inside. I remember how I was so hot and sweaty when I stopped running that I had a chill.   Or let's play stick ball or box ball in the middle of the street.  When a car comes we'll yell "Car, Car Stick Your Head in the jelly Jar".  We did all this without a playgroup, kids our own age or are parents arranging a play date.  Remember jelly jars?  Do you remember Chinese Jumprope?  Remember walking to school with the neighborhood kids including kindergarteners and stopping for ice cream cones with jimmies on the way home from school only on Fridays. 

 Linda Faletto

 I still use pink sponge curlers. I also remember vending machines
outside the dairy that dispensed milk when the dairy was closed. Is that
universal or just another oddity from the little town I was brought up in?

Barry Burd & Harriet Ritter

1.   Pogo sticks, stilts.
2.   Remember getting a long distance call ? Everything stopped and the person RAN to the phone – every second
      counted because long distance was expensive..
3.   Remember your postal zone?  Mine was Akron, 2, Ohio.  This later became the last 2 digits of the zip code.
4.   3 cent stamps
5    tax stamps (Ohio)
6.   Buying some sort of stamp at school to stick in a book – seems like it was a leftover from WWII, even tho this
      was the mid-50s.  Savings stamps? 
7.   glass milk bottles, even the little ones in school
8.   walking home for lunch
9.   Dials on phones
10. Hide and go Seek: After the seeker counts:“Apples peaches pumpkin pie – who’s not ready, holler ‘I’”   At the
      end: “Olly Olly In Free”
11.‘Poision’ with bottle caps – make a ring of bottle caps with ‘zones’ – in the middle was a chalk skull and
      crossbones.  If you flipped your bottlecap and hit the skull and crossbones, you were ‘poisioned’.
12. Chatty Cathy, the amazing talking doll.
13. A package of Hostess Cupcakes (2) for 12 cents.

 Chris Ritter (Harriet’s Cousin):

So, whaddaya expect from someone who lost all his hair over 30 years ago?
"Older than dirt," I guess. Or even older, 'cause here's some more:

26. The (black & white) TV repairman, who had a big flip-open case filled with vacuum tubes
27. Mail before zip codes
28. The elementary school milk machine: 5 cents/half-pint
29. Drive-in *movies*
30. "Bryyylcreeeeam, a little dab'll do ya"
31. Getting spanked in the principal's office if you misbehaved
32. Fallout shelters
33. Summer pool closings due to fear of polio
34. Packards & Studebakers?--Ha, remember the Henry J?
35. Computers, the names of which ended in -iac and which were bigger than cars, run by guys who really did use
       plastic pocket protectors, and there were about three of them. That's 3, total, in existence, period.
36. Ladies (e.g., our mothers) who wore girdles
37. Men (e.g., our fathers) who wore fedoras
38. Forget 45s--how 'bout 78s?
39. The ultimate shopping experience: the 10 lb. Sears catalog
40. AT&T, when you actually could make use of the second T

Second Round  - 4/4/06

Donna Lee Gennaro

Forget the little pink rollers. (Linda Faletto)  I used to roll my hair in cans.
How about am transistor radios??

 

Peg Houle

OK, I'll add on.  Who remembers making gum wrapper chains?  Mitch Miller and follow the bouncing ball as we sang along (this was the precursor to Karaoke, I think).  My 9 yr old wants to take the quiz - he's still laughing because I scored "older than dirt."  ha ha ha

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Donna Lee

speaking of chains what about going around collecting tab tops and making chains out of those.

 

Connie Bizer

 This was fun, I only had the chance to open this this morning -

Grownups dressed up - even when they went shopping.  I remember my mother taking the bus to shop in downtown Newark -in both cold and hot weather- she would wear a dress, stockings, high heels, girdle, gloves, and a hat.  She used to shop in a store that had two French poodles running around, shop keepers that actually knew the products, her name (called her Mrs. Mantlik) and helped you individually.  The dressing rooms had little paper cups on which one would have to press their lips, to remove their (usually red) lipstick before they tried on the clothes.

I remember one time being bored and accidentally removed the hand from a mannequin.  I was horrified.  I remember the fear shooting up my spine like hot lightening -I honestly thought they would arrest me (I was about 4) I remember I thought about hiding it - I was so mortified I remember that to this day. I can't remember what I did with the damn thing.

In those days children were seen, not heard and we had to behave - or else you eventually got spanked.

Remember the hats and hat pins?  The gloves.  The big swishy dresses.

My mom did the cha-cha-cha at a Catholic school fundraiser with a very dishy young priest (we were all in love with him) her dress was black - form fitting on top - with a big and foofy skirt.  I counted the layers of crinoline (sp?)  - about 50!

My grandmother's whale-bone girdle that laced in the back. 

I remember that (at least in my neighborhood - in predominately Italian-American community) Grandmothers had grey hair, wore their hair in a bun, always wore house dresses and aprons and could usually be found in the kitchen with several pots steaming on the stoves.

 Homes always smelled delicious, like someone was cooking -but also smelled of cigarette smoke. All the men smoked in our house - my mother, aunts, grandmother did not -were forbidden - my grandfather was patriarch and he thought women who smoked had loose morals.

 Aunt Virginia and Aunt Connie were my mother's friends.  They would come over sometimes at night with their husbands and the grown-ups drank Manhattans and smoked like chimneys.

 I will end with- I remember an Italian store on the corner of Bloomfield Ave. in Newark that had sawdust on the floor and provolone hanging from the ceiling.

 

This began with the following email from Sue Behrens, a Madison mom and activist:

Older than Dirt, and the Older than Dirt Quiz:

"Hey Mom," one of my kids asked the other day, "What was your  favorite  fast food when you were growing up?"
"We didn't have  fast food when I was growing up," I informed him. "All the  food was  slow."

"C'mon, seriously. Where did you eat?"  "It was a place  called 'at home,'" I explained. "Grandma cooked
every day  and when  Grandpa got home from work, we sat down together at the dining  room  table,
and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was allowed to  sit there until I did like it."

By this time, the kid was  laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to  suffer serious internal  damage, so I didn't tell him the part
about how I  had to have permission  to leave the table. But here are some other things  I would have told him  about my childhood if I figured his system could  have handled it:

Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levis, set foot  upon a golf  course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card. In  their later  years they had something called a revolving charge card. The  card was good  only at Sears Roebuck. Or maybe it was Sears AND Roebuck.  Either way,  there is no Roebuck anymore. Maybe he died.

My parents never drove me to soccer practice. This was mostly because  we  never had heard of soccer. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50  pounds, and only had one speed, (slow).

We didn't have a television  in our  house until I was 11, but my grandparents had one before that.
It  was, of  course, black and white, but they bought a piece of colored  plastic to  cover the screen. The top third was blue, like the sky, and  the bottom  third was green, like grass. The middle third was red. It was  perfect for  programs that had scenes of fire trucks riding across  someone's lawn on a  sunny day. Some people had a lens taped to the front  of the TV to make the  picture look larger.

I was 13  before I tasted my first pizza, it was called "pizza pie." When I  bit  into it, I burned the roof of my mouth and the cheese slid
off, swung  down, plastered itself against my chin and burned that too. It's still  the  best pizza I ever had.

We didn't have a car until I  was 15. Before that, the only car in our  family was my grandfather's  Ford. He called it a "machine."
I never had a telephone in my  room. The only phone in the house was in the  living room and it was on a  party line. Before you could dial, you had to  listen and make sure some  people you didn't know weren't already using the  line.

Pizzas were not delivered to our home. But milk was.All  newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered
newspapers. I  delivered a newspaper, six days a week. It cost 7 cents a paper, of  which I got to keep 2 cents. I had to get up at 4 AM every morning. On Saturday,  I had to collect the 42 cents from my customers. My favorite  customers  were the ones who gave me 50 cents and told  me to keep the change. My least favorite  customers were the ones who  seemed to never be home on collection day.

Movie stars kissed  with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the  movies. Touching  someone else's tongue with yours was called
French  kissing and they  didn't do that in movies. I don't know what they did in  French movies.  French movies were dirty and we weren't allowed to see  them.

If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want  to  share some of these memories with your children or
grandchildren.  Just  don't blame me if they bust a gut laughing.Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?

 MEMORIES  from a friend:

My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother's house  (she died in December) and  he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle.  In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it. I knew  immediately what it was, but  my daughter had no idea. She thought they  had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle  that sat on the end of the  ironing board to "sprinkle" clothes with  because we didn't have steam  irons. Man, I am old.

How  many do you remember?

Head lights dimmer switches on the  floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Heaters mounted on  the inside of the fire wall.
Real ice boxes.
Pant leg clips for  bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas  burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.

Older Than Dirt Quiz: Count all the ones that you remember not
the  ones  you! were told about Ratings at the bottom.


1.  Blackjack chewing gum
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar  water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda pop machines that dispensed  glass bottles
5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke boxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines
8. Newsreels before the movie
9. P.F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix  (OLive-6933)
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45  RPM records
15.
S&H Green Stamps
16 Hi-fi's
17. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19 Blue  flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Roller skate keys
22. Cork  popguns
23. Drive-ins
24. Studebakers
25. Wash tub  wringers

If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young
If  you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
f you remembered 11-15 =  Don't tell your age,
f you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt!

I might be older than dirt but those memories are the best  part
of my life.

Don't forget to pass this along!!

 There's always room for more!!

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